06/01/2026
Getting SOC2 certified doesn't mean your company is secure, it means you're good at compliance theater.
John Verry, Managing Director at CBIZ Cybersecurity and ISO 27001 certified lead auditor since 2006, joins the Full Metal Packet podcast to give CISOs a reality check on what compliance actually means in the age of AI.
He explains:
◼ Why even the best-intentioned compliance programs slip into theater, and the one mindset shift that fixes it
◼ How to operationalize security controls inside tools your team already lives in (JIRA, ServiceNow, SharePoint) so nothing falls through the cracks
◼ What shadow AI actually looks like on the ground, and the single control you can implement tomorrow to contain it
◼ Why the EU AI Act (Aug 2026) and ISO 42001 are no longer theoretical, and what a provable AI compliance program looks like right now
◼ Why agentic AI is the risk that should be keeping every CISO up at night: autonomous decisions, no human in the loop, business impact at scale